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  Removing Mr. Trump from office.....

  by mikeflood in

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  former fbi deputy director mccabe confirms: there were discussions within the department of justice about invoking 25 th amendment to remove trump from office.... .

  i mean the us democracy isn't a third world country, a least the people involved should be reprimanded, they acted like trying a coup d'etat..

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  Della Street

  I could rebut all of your allegations against Trump, but I think that you are missing the whole purpose of this thread.
  Now, if he is as bad as you said; please tell me about the process to remove him from office and whether or not it has been followed by the FBI and the DOJ?

  Hecce,

  The process to remove a President from office is generally through impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors." The House and Senate investigates through committees and a special counsel is appointed. Charges brought by the House is equivalent of an indictment through a grand jury. A simple majority in the House approves the impeachment. Once the House has impeached a President, they remain in office while awaiting trial in the Senate. Senate must have a 2/3 super majority to convict and remove the President from office.

  Mueller, as you know is the special counsel. The investigation is still active. So, it is still to be seen if there is any standing to impeach the President or not. Once all the evidence has been examined, then it will be known. It may well be, after all is said and done, that the President himself is cleared of any accusations. I am waiting like everyone else for the results of the investigation to be made public.

  The question I am left with at the moment is - most of the principal players in both the campaign and at the White House have been shown to have some relationship (usually a business tie) to Russia on some level. If everything was on the up and up, what are they all lying about? Why would they not be forthcoming ( i.e. register as an agent for a foreign government) or why would they deny or lie about meetings, etc?

  Even if it turns out there is nothing there, the amount of lying makes everyone look suspicious.
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  Removing Mr. Trump from office.....

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  former fbi deputy director mccabe confirms: there were discussions within the department of justice about invoking 25 th amendment to remove trump from office.... .

  i mean the us democracy isn't a third world country, a least the people involved should be reprimanded, they acted like trying a coup d'etat..

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  My other question for those who support Trump: What about the American Citizen who was killed by the Prince of Saudi Arabia? I understand he was a journalist, but still - he was an American. I cannot remember a time when such a public event was ignored by the White House.
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  Removing Mr. Trump from office.....

  by mikeflood in

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  2. current

  former fbi deputy director mccabe confirms: there were discussions within the department of justice about invoking 25 th amendment to remove trump from office.... .

  i mean the us democracy isn't a third world country, a least the people involved should be reprimanded, they acted like trying a coup d'etat..

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  For those who support Trump: does the Russian interference in the election, Trump benefiting financially from being President, his relationship with dictators, and disregard for the rule of law or Constitution bother you at all?

  I'm asking an honest question. I don't understand how conservatives accept his actions when they seem to violate the Office.
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  Great Announcement

  by Tiana in

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  2. experiences

  am a newcomer.

  had a starnge metting in local news last night.. check it out.

  actual info starts at 50;12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plxdjs13l0k.

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  Della Street

  I watched some of it starting at 50:12 : Here is the summary.

  Local Needs "Are You Ready For The Great Tribulation?"

  Mostly telling people to obey the elders even if it doesn't make sense, hide your literature, study, go to meetings, go out in service, ....

  Lots of fear mongering.

  There is nothing new under the sun.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  Calling what is happening "genocide" is overstating the issue, and is not accurate. There is more intermarriage, more brown and black people are participating more freely in society in general and politics specifically.

  Light skinned people and whites have been killing off and oppressing brown and black people all over the world since the beginning of time, so the fact that those of us who are White NOW complain that it might be happening to us (even though it is not) seems a little ridiculous.

  At the same time, when you look at social dominance theory and social dominance orientation, it helps to explain the white male panic that is seems to be currently going around.
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  Kingdom halls.. the demise of..

  by zeb in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  would some kind soul create a site listing as best they know the names of and the countries where kh have been closed and sold.. ie 31-6-2017, mount tall cong, north kameria.. it seems like the kh are being sold off in a lemming like rush to the cliffs..

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  I just was told today by a pioneer that they are consolidating and dissolving congregations because KH are only 48% full on average in this country. Of course the justification was "they need the money to pay for growth in other countries and all the natural disasters...." I silently added, "uh, yeah. and all the lawsuits where they are losing millions of dollars...." anyhooo....

  DS
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  What holidays are they talking about?

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the elders manual under apostasy,.

  "1) celebrating false religious holidays: (ex.

  32:4-6; jer.

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  I have always wondered why JWWs were against Mother's Day, Father's Day, Grandparent's Day...those were all made up holidays by Hallmark.

  Even Thanksgiving is sort of a grey area. I know a lot of JWs who have a turkey dinner on Thanksgiving while at the same time not calling it that or drawing attention to the fact that they do.

  I can see ruling out 4th of July and Thanksgiving as political holidays...
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  Bombshell: Walls closing in; Beginning of the end!

  by betterdaze in

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  sorry to let you down but it's not the watchtower.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjuvfzj-fm0.

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  If the investigation can solidly tie Trump and anyone else in the WH to any serious crimes - how about they be removed and we let congress govern until the election.
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  May 2019 child abuse WT

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the new study edition watchtower is up, and most of it is devoted to child abuse damage control.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2019/.

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  The courts don't believe either side - at least they are not supposed to. The evidence is presented, and then it compels people to believe one side or the other. Although the facts are the facts, there is no such thing as proof, only evidence - which we then choose to be swayed by or not. And each of us has a different line for where it tips over into "beyond a reasonable doubt" territory.

  I am not the court, so I can be biased. I tend to trust and verify victims, while at the same time knowing that sometimes (rarely) people lie even about these things.

  If there is one accuser - I tend to withhold assuming he is guilty. But when the count of accusers is 3 or more, that is when I flip over and assume he is guilty. You can get one person to lie, maybe even two. Coordinating 3 or more people to lie about that kind of thing would be much more difficult and unlikely.

  At least that is how I settle things out when I see stuff like that.
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  May 2019 child abuse WT

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the new study edition watchtower is up, and most of it is devoted to child abuse damage control.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2019/.

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  @flipper ... it's annoying right?

  My thinking around that is when people are required to suppress their desire for achievement in order to fit in, and then are deemed "worthy" of a title and some little influence...it sets people up to mis-use what power they feel they have. They have given their autonomy away, so they take it out on others. I doubt any of them are insightful about that at all, but that is the way I've always seen it. Basic Maslow - people have psychological needs to feel agency, and being a JW strips that away. It's a recipe for disaster, as we well know.